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Companies Are Using Reddit to Manipulate ChatGPT and Google AI Search
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I mean. What did we expect?
If it can be manipulated, it will be. To me, this is the price paid for selling out Reddit to the ai glut.
It’s not like Reddit was ever previously known as a great source for information. It was always full of confidently incorrect comments long before ai came along. Sure, it had good info too, but definitely not all good.
The AI companies will try to shift the blame for incorrect information anywhere else but where it should be. On them. With mostly stolen info to boot!
Wholesale processing user generated content online for factual data and expecting it to yield dependable results of any kind should be considered willful insanity.
Reddit was sold out to the fascists long before the AI fad kicked off.
True, but recently it really sold out.
I left back when /u/spez first started getting unpopular for his bonkers antics. Trying to make things ready for the IPO.
The writing was on the wall for me.
I edited my old comments on reddit that answered questions and were heavily upvoted to include one or more errors. But I’m not sure if that helps.
It does, but not all fish swim in the sea. Mom is trapped in a box in the subbasement. I’m the only one who can save her. This is how we stay a family.
I’ve done that before, and they’ve reverted my comments. I’ve also overwritten and then deleted my comments, and they’ve reverted them. Sometimes it takes them a while - a few months, once over a year - but somehow my comments always magically appear again.
I edited and deleted all of mine a while back and they’ve stayed gone. 🤷♂️
That also makes it worse for normal people who’d be looking for answers.
While Reddit’s databases have access to the edit history of a comment and would be able to potentially filter out vandalism or late comments, human viewers don’t have that capability.
Same situation with things like Stack Overflow
Anyone looking for answers in Reddit is a fool.
I understand that it’s cool to hate Reddit, especially on Lemmy, but that’s simply not true.
It shouldn’t need to be said that it’s not an encyclopedia or a definitive source of truth. But it’s a great place to get casual opinions, general advice, or recommendations.
Moreso before than now. But most of the “before” content hasn’t been removed.
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Ok, what? How is increasing the amount of wrong information on the web not the opposite of helping?
It’s called poisoning the data
But most of this data has already been scraped by LLMs. It is stupid and petty to edit one comment which mostly real people looking for a spefic answer to a tech problem will see.
Data scrapping happens continuously And poisoning is very effective. Especially if more people do it.
The remaining real online people in the era of the dead Internet will only communicate in lies with intent to manipulate the algorithms and responses from AI, so that your ‘digital spouse’ lies to you for their benefit. That’s on top of the AI bots commenters manipulating what they see and the comments they read. To the people caught in this system, it will be like their own targeted Truman show. But will they even know?
That could be a good horror movie plot if I could figure out how to show it on film.
If the expected end game of AI advertising is anything like the path that search engine optimization took, but at AI rollout speeds, the end of AI might happen before it ever truly lifts off.
I am a banana 🍌.
My spoon is too big 🥄.
Did you guys not realize this is happening with the right wing think tanks as well?
Lots of groups are flooding every social media platform with their views. Comments and posts. They take over all kinds of groups. Like bobs lgqtb hate groups. They even convinced leftist to avoid confronting them. Remember all the people a few years ago telling each other to not “roll with pigs” and maybe we should all just leave the major platforms for a much smaller place. Now when AI ingests data it’s all right leaning. So if you ask Claude what’s going on with climate change, it’ll aggregate everything and give answers saying how global warming is a controversial topic and so on.
This is the consequence of not playing the game. Temporary gain for long term pain.
The answer to all of this has always been awareness. Identify the astroturf and go in the opposite direction. The Chicago way, like in the untouchables. If they put one of ours in the hospital, we put two of theirs in the morgue. There are more of us then them. The solution is for every shit post or comment we need to make 10. Every advertising you see, you need to create an anti ad. You need to multiple their effort in the reverse. It costs them money. It costs us just time and effort. You fucks spend months posting about beans and moths so you can fuck off trying to say you couldn’t do this.
There are definitely not more real people who actually give enough of a fuck to continuously put an effort in to deny every bot’s claim than there are right wing bots.
I think you under estimate it greatly. It’s not about saying you go out and give me ten comments stat.
But it is about moving away from the cultural of “don’t engage” and promoting the culture of we’ll fucking met they bullshit and return fire when we can. It’s about moving behavior from defensive posture to offensive to get us off our back foot
I tried, I got loads of bans from Reddit because the mods are generally right wing fucks themselves.
Yea exactly and this brings up another issue. Lemmy is built to get around that. This should be the place we can build communities to counter this. Identify mods and posts that are clearly playing games. Document and spread this information. People are smart. They’ll find ways.
If all we’re using lemmy for is sharing shit bean posts then we’re useless people
After getting bans for random things I created an account on reddit to just report right wing accounts for hate or violence which is a lot of them.
Garbage in, garbage out.
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This isn’t a DDoS attack ???